Re: Science Proves the Bible- since it's been slow

Ian Dorion (dorioni@intellinet.com)
Thu, 01 May 1997 09:30:51 -0600

(Ian 5/1) John, can you get this Preacher Man on this list? Is he on the Net?
Does he have a name, address, anything? Sounds like he'd be fun.

MizMoho@aol.com wrote:
>
> Science proves the bible? Let's see..........
> I've snipped a bunch of John's original post due to length. This is from
> some Xtian radio show John Hamilton listens to. I don't know how he can
> stomach listening to this junk but I'll bet he has a good time!!!
>
> PREACHER MAN:
> Let us notice some examples of the harmony between science and the Bible. "In
> the beginning God created the heavens and the earth"(Gen. 1:1) This was
> written by Moses through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit about 1500 B.C.
> In 1820 A.D. a man named Hubert Spencer gave the world five scientific
> principles by which man may study the unknown. They are time, force, energy,
> space, and matter. However, Moses, by inspiration, gave us those scientific
> principles in Genesis 1:1. "In the beginning" --God; "created" -- energy;
> "the heavens" --space; "and the earth" -- matter. All of Spencer's scientific
> principles are right there in Genesis 1:1.
>
> INERRANT WORD OF GOD: with my (Sarah's) comments in parenthesis
> Genesis 1
> 1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
> 2 The earth was without form and void, and darkness was upon the face of
> the deep; and the Spirit of God was moving over the face of the waters.
> (This is my personal favorite. I guess the earth was just a blob of water
> and God was going swimming!)
> 3 And God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light.
> 4 And God saw that the light was good; and God separated the light from the
> darkness.
> 5 God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was
> evening and there was morning, one day.
> 6 And God said, "Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and
> let it separate the waters from the waters." (this sounds like the earth
> is a slab between 2 blobs of H2O)
> 7 And God made the firmament and separated the waters which were under the
> firmament from the waters which were above the firmament. And it was so.
> 8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And there was evening and there was
> morning, a second day.
> 9 And God said, "Let the waters under the heavens be gathered together into
> one place, and let the dry land appear." And it was so.
> 10 God called the dry land Earth, and the waters that were gathered together
> he called Seas. And God saw that it was good.
> 11 And God said, "Let the earth put forth vegetation, plants yielding seed,
> and fruit trees bearing fruit in which is their seed, each according to its
> kind, upon the earth." And it was so.
> 12 The earth brought forth vegetation, plants yielding seed according to
> their own kinds, and trees bearing fruit in which is their seed, each
> according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.
> 13 And there was evening and there was morning, a third day.
>
> SARAH
> Oh, I see, it only took 3 days to create the heavens and the earth. Well,
> all scientists must be wrong in their calculations and dating of the age of
> the different layers of rock, mountains, etc. The studies of the Grand
> Canyon must be a hoax!! I'm not going to go into the many contradictions in
> the book of Genesis, there are too many to mention!!!
>
> INERRANT WORD OF GOD
> Geneses 2:
> 7 then the LORD God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into
> his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.
>
> SARAH
> So, all anthropologists are barking up the wrong tree of knowledge. I've
> always believed people are dirt! You notice that God didn't make other
> living beings from dirt. Aren't we the lucky ones?
>
> INERRANT WORD OF GOD
> 8 And the LORD God planted a garden in Eden, in the east; and there he put
> the man whom he had formed.
> 9 And out of the ground the LORD God made to grow every tree that is
> pleasant to the sight and good for food, the tree of life also in the midst
> of the garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. (now wait a
> minute! God already made every living plant and thing! What's up with
> this?)
>
> 15 The LORD God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to till it and
> keep it.
> 16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, "You may freely eat of every
> tree of the garden;
> 17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for
> in the day that you eat of it you shall die."
>
> SARAH
> Well, God is a liar! Adam did not die after he ate from the tree of good and
> evil. You may also note that God did not tell Eve that she couldn't eat from
> that tree. Adam had no self control. No wonder men are like they are!!!:)
> Just kidding!!!
>
> PREACHER MAN
> Moses, again writing by inspiration hundreds of years ago, told us something
> man did not know until much later. "For the life of the flesh is in the
> blood, and I have given it to you upon the altar to make atonement for your
> souls; for it is the blood that makes atonement for the soul" (Leviticus
> 17:11). How could Moses have known about the life-giving qualities of blood
> unless God had revealed it to him?'
>
> SARAH
> This guy doesn't know how to read. In my bible, THE LORD is speaking to
> Moses in this chapter. This means that Moses does not know this fact about
> blood, God is telling him this fact.
>
> PREACHER MAN
> Many archaeologists have explored the land of Palestine. Has any one of those
> scientists ever discovered anything which disproves the Bible?
>
> JOHN
> [yes]
>
> PREACHER MAN
> No. Many archaeological discoveries have confirmed the Biblical record.
> However, none has ever contradicted the Word of God. This ought to be very
> reassuring to those of us who believe the Bible to be the inspired Word of
> God. At the same time, it ought to convince the skeptic, the agnostic, the
> atheist, that this book is God's book. Therefore, not only does God exist,
> but He has revealed His Will to man.
>
> Many other examples of the harmony between science and the Bible could be
> given. However, the ones we have examined are sufficient to show that the
> Bible is God's book. As the apostle Paul declared, All Scripture is given by
> inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for
> correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be
> complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work" (2 Timothy 3:16,17).
>
> SARAH
> We are back to the eternal argument: the INERRANT WORD OF GOD is chock full
> of evil deeds done by the Big Guy himself. The INERRANT WORD OF GOD is chock
> full of lies and contradictions.
>
> PREACHER MAN
> The Bible is accurate in matters of science, and it is accurate in the matter
> of salvation. The Bible tells us that to be saved we must believe in Jesus
> Christ. "Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you
> do not believe that I am He, you will die in your sins." However, the same
> Lord said, "I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise
> perish(Luke 13:3). Jesus also spoke of confessing Him before men. "Therefore
> whoever confesses Me before men, him I will also confess before My Father who
> is in heaven."But whoever denies Me before men, him I will also deny before
> My Father who is in heaven"(Matthew 10:32,33). And Jesus declared, "He who
> believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be
> condemned"(Mark 16:16). It is then that the Lord himself adds us to the
> church of the New Testament, the one body of believers. If the Bible is
> accurate in matters of science, it is accurate in the matter of salvation.
> Will you respond to the inspired Word?
>
> SARAH
> Hell, no!!!!!
>
> John Hamilton
> Jlhamltn@pacbell.net
>
> The other day upon the stair,
> I met a man that wasn't there.
> He wasn't there again today,
> I wish I wish he'd go away.
>
> "There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of
> donkeys, and whose emission was like that of horses." -Ezekial 23:20
>
> SARAH
> I finally read this chapter in Ezekial and find God to be a major jerk! (big
> surprise?!) He punished the two sisters for doing what came naturally, but
> the thousands of men who used these two women were not punished at all! God
> is a chauvinist pig!!!
>
> ~^~^~^~^~mizmoho(sarah)
>
> ~o~o~o~o~"I don't know that atheists should be considered citizens, nor
> should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God."~o~o~o~o~
> -George Bush in Free Inquiry magazine, Fall 1988