Re: Challange- the 'fruits' of censorship

Michael P. Hughes (michael@mail.advertisnet.com)
Thu, 1 May 1997 23:24:57 +0000

> (Ian 5/1) Jerry which of the poems, symbols, ect. do you object to?
>
> jerry d. mcdonald wrote:
> >
> > > From: John Hamilton <jlhamltn@pacbell.net>
> > > To: "'errancy'" <errancy@infidels.org>
> > > Subject: Challange- the 'fruits' of censorship
> > > Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 13:06:30 -0700
> >
> > > Below is a posting to challenge complaining about my signature file, and my reply.
> > > Once people start censoring objectionable speech the next step is always objectionable ideas.
> > >
> > > John Hamilton
> > > Jlhamltn@pacbell.net
> > >
> > > The other day upon the stair,
> > > I met a man that wasn't there.
> > > He wasn't there again today,
> > > I wish I wish he'd go away.
> > >
> > > "There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of
> > > donkeys, and whose emission was like that of horses." -Ezekial 23:20
> > > (I borrowed this from Yoel, it has become my favorite Bible verse)
> > >
> > > |,,|/
> > >
> > > <X><
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: John Hamilton [SMTP:jlhamltn@pacbell.net]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 1997 12:32 PM
> > > To: 'Jerry McDonald'; April Dorsey-Tyler; Bill Carrell; Bob Bauer; Castonguay, Gregory; D.B. Willis; Daniel J. Wolfram; David Adkins; Eric
> B. Hedden; Farre
> > > n; John F. Gaines; John Romo; L. Davis; Lenny Santee; Mark T. McWhorter; Michael Fisher; Michael P. Huges; Mike Faust; Paul J Ditoro;
> Richard Fentiman; Sandr
> > > Subject: RE: John Hamilton's remarks
> > >
> > >
> > > John Hamilton
> > > Jlhamltn@pacbell.net
> > >
> > > The other day upon the stair,
> > > I met a man that wasn't there.
> > > He wasn't there again today,
> > > I wish I wish he'd go away.
> > >
> > > What, pray tell is crude about that poem? Know you are going to censor us on our signature file? I challenge you to find one (1) thing
> crude about that poe
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of
> > > donkeys, and whose emission was like that of horses." -Ezekial 23:20
> > >
> > > Now, this could be considered to be crude, but it is a Bible quote, are you saying that Bible quotes are inappropriate to a Bible discussion
> list?
> > >
> > > |,,|/
> > >
> > > This is the American sign language symbol for I love you, are expressions of love inappropriate for this list?
> > >
> > > <X><
> > >
> > > This is my own opinion about the Christian religion. Is it ok for a Christian to put "In His service" or some such thing but not for an
> atheist to express h
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jerry McDonald [SMTP:jerry@cwent.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 1997 11:56 AM
> > > To: April Dorsey-Tyler; Bill Carrell; Bob Bauer; Castonguay, Gregory; D.B. Willis; Daniel J. Wolfram; David Adkins; Eric B. Hedden;
> Farrell Till; Fred D. W
> > > John Hamilton; John Romo; L. Davis; Lenny Santee; Mark T. McWhorter; Michael Fisher; Michael P. Huges; Mike Faust; Paul J Ditoro;
> Richard Fentiman; Sandra C
> > > Subject: Fw: John Hamilton's remarks
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----------
> > > > Date: Wednesday, April 30, 1997 02:32:28
> > > > From: L. Davis
> > > > To: jerry@cwent.com
> > > > Subject: John Hamilton's remarks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Personally, I find your cutesy crude poems offensive and don't believe
> > > they
> > > > have any relevancy to any discussion on this list. Could you please
> > > refrain?
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > McDonald 5/1
> > Now why don't you tell them about my response to their
> > objections to your signature, John? If you don't I surely will.
> > Jerry D. McDonald
> > http://www.cwent.com/~jerry/index.html
>

Ian...you need the whole story. John you need to be honest enough to
explain that the moderator defended your right to post your signature
and that you *were not* censored at all concerning it. One person
complained about it and was told within the list that there was no
point to complain as you had the right to post the sig.
Michael P. Hughes
http://www.odd.net/ozarks/churches/cchrist/camdenton/index.htm