Savoia
Exactly -- IF you are claiming inerrancy for the Bible. If not, then
of course you are at liberty to ignore it.
(DAVE 5/6) Michael: What if I wasn't claiming anything - just exploring.
And I came upon an errantist saying that Moserath and Mount Hor were
separate places. I would expect the claimant to know that they weren't - is
this not reasonable?
Dave
> If this is wrong, then give me a yes or no answer to the following
> question:
> are the two following statements contradictory?:
>
> "Neither of my sister-in-laws has ever met my in-laws"
> "My in-laws have met both my sister-in-laws"
>
Savoia
They may or may not be, depending on whether the in-laws in the
first sentence are the same as in the second, or perhaps the manner
of their meeting. Obviously anyone's first impression is that it is
a contradiction.
(DAVE 5/6) Michael: Exactly. And one's first impression could be entirely
wrong once they learn a bit more detail about the statements. Could this
not be the case when Mount Hor and Moserath are addressed as well? Is it
not false to make an assertion based on "first impressions"?
Michael
However, IF you hold to a view that the person
making those statements absolutely cannot contradict him/herself,
then do you see, Dave, why you must argue that they are NOT a
contradiction, given your position?
(DAVE 5/6) Michael: No, I don't, as I said - a non-believer could present
you with the same problem. You see, the only answer from errantists that I
am getting is "well, you think it's the opposite so prove it" - this is
evasion and buck passing. I am asking the errantists here to actually
support one of their assertions. Not simply by saying "well prove that
we're wrong". Because my answer back could be the same thing - and that
accomplishes nothing.
An assertion of contradiction has been made. It should be proven.
Michael
In return, let me also pose a yes/no question, which should make this
point very clear:
If archaeology was to discover that Moseroth and Mt. Hor are NOT in
fact the same place, does the Bible contain a contradiction? (yes
or no)
(DAVE 5/6) Michael: If beyond any doubt, yes it would appear to me (at
least on first impression) that there was a contradiction - even an error.
So, yes.
Regards.
Dave.
"Instead of wondering why there aren't more ways to God, the appropriate
response would be to marvel that there IS a way, and accept it with humility
and gratitude."
- Michael Horner