yoel-
Well, Dave... as much as I may not know that Mt. Hor and Moserath are not
the same place... YOU DEFINITELY DO NOT KNOW THAT THEY ARE!
(DAVE 5/6) Yoel: Agreed. I have said that all along. But you have made
the assertion that they aren't in the same place, and I'm afraid your lack
of evidence shows your assertion to be a false one - surely you can come up
with something better then "well,Dave, look at what YOU believe" as if that,
in some way, proves your point. Don't you evade it too, Yoel - are Moserath
and Mount Hor separate places?
Yoel
You simply
WISH TO BELIEVE they are.
(DAVE 5/6) Yoel: Not the issue. Izzy has made an unsubstantiated
assertion, which you and others seem to support. Just would like your proof
for it, that's all - it has NOTHING to do with what I believe.
Yoel
There is not enough information given in the
Bible to know for certain that they are not the same place.
(DAVE 5/6) Yoel: So why are you supporting Izzy and Farrell who say they
weren't? How can I defend the fact that they weren't when we don't even
know this is the case? You have proven my point anyway (it's good that
someone' points are being supported here).
Yoel
But what
information IS given would lead one to logically surmise that they are not,
especially when one considers the Christian claim that this book is unlike
any onther the "inspired" word of an omniscient deity. THERE IS NO
INFORMATION GIVEN IN THE BIBLE which would indicate that Moseroth and Mt.
Hor are the same place.
(DAVE 5/6) Yoel: Agreed, except for one problem - the Bible does state
that Aaron died in Moserath and on Mount Hor - I would say that the Bible is
maiing the claim that they were the same place, wouldn't you? After all,
Aaron can only die once.
Yoel
Since two clearly different place names are given,
and since the Bible is not "just any book" but the "word of God", then it
should be clearer than it is, if the Bible's words are indeed "eternal" and
relevant to us now. It should be clear and comprehendable.
(DAVE 5/6) Yoel: But you are making assumptions to prove your assertion -
telling me how you THINK an inspired book should be does nothing for me - I
don't care. Show me evidence that they're not the same place - show me
evidence that the Bible is wrong about these locations.
Yoel
(snip)
Now Dave, you say there is a Paris, Ontario. Well, let's say I call you up
and ask you to meet me in the Pizza Hut in Paris... and because of the
proximity to your home, or for whatever reason, you ASSUME that I am
talking about the Pizza Hut in Paris, Ontario. You show up there, wait, but
I do not show up. When you next speak to me, you ask me where I was. I say
that I was in the Pizza Hut in Paris, France. Well, there was no
contradiction. Now Dave, next time I call you up and invite you to the
Pizza Hut in Paris, aren't you going to VERIFY my intention, since I was so
obviously unclear in my invitation, perhaps even misleading? How many times
will you unquestioningly show up at the Pizza Hut in Paris, Ontario, when
in fact I mean the Pizza Hut in Paris France?
(DAVE 5/6) Yoel: It foolishly may happen once, that's all though. On the
other hand, I may go to the correct Paris as well - you are implying I
absolutely would pick the wrong one - why?
Yoel
You are claiming that the Bible has no contradiction when it claims that
the same event occured at two different places.
(DAVE 5/6) Yoel: Are you saying Moserath and Mount Hor were separate
places? Yes, you are - please prove that.
Yoel
You are saying that the two
place names are refering to the same location...BUT YOU HAVE NO WAY OF
KNOWING THIS.
(DAVE 5/6) Yoel: You are doing ALL the "saying" here - the burden of proof
is on you.
Regards.
Dave.
"Instead of wondering why there aren't more ways to God, the appropriate
response would be to marvel that there IS a way, and accept it with humility
and gratitude."
- Michael Horner