Blood, Water and Magicians 1b (CCBE Response)
Farrell Till jftill@midwest.net
Sun, 04 Oct 1998 22:41:30 -0700 (00907584090, 2.2.32.19981005054130.0089f25c@midwest.net)
At 10:34 PM 10/4/98 +0100, Matthew Bell wrote:
>F.TILL
>> In my original posting, which I cut and pasted from a written debate with
>> Jerry Moffitt (a Church-of-Christ preacher who chickened out when the going
>> got too rough for him), I noted that if we concede the existence of an
>> all-powerful deity who was behind the efforts of Aaron and Moses to secure
>> the release of the Israelites, then certainly changing rods into serpents
>> and water into blood would be recognizably possible, BUT no one, not even
>> an omnipotent deity, could change water that didn't exist into blood. Hence,
>> my line of argumentation was based on a concession that your god Yahweh
>> exists and that he could have enabled Aaron and Moses to perform the
>> remarkable miracles in the story of the 10 plagues, but I was also arguing
>> that not even this magnificent Yahweh could do that which is logistically
>> impossible to do. The changing of water into blood after ALL of the water
>> in Egypt has already been changed into blood is logistically impossible,
>> and the killing of livestock with hail after ALL of the livestock of Egypt
>> had already been killed by the plague of murrain would also have been
>> logistically impossible. How could these events have happened?
>>
>> This is the issue, Matt, so why don't you and your CCBE cohorts get busy
>> and solve this problem?
>
>CCBE
>The killing of the livestock with hail is not the immediate matter under
>discussion, hence we will not be dealing with that matter at present.
>
TILL
Another point of clarification is requested. Are you arguing that when one
biblical passage is being discussed, no one may introduce another biblical
passage in order to clarify or support a conclusion that he has reached
about the original passage? If so, please let us know if this is a
precedent that you want to establish for future discussions of inerrancy.
Please don't forget the mess you got yourself into with the rigid standards
of evidence that you insisted upon during the LXX discussions.
When I have received the clarifications that I have requested in this and an
earlier posting, I will proceed with my rebuttal.
Farrell Till
Skepticism, Inc.
jftill@midwest.net